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Sparks Captain
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 135 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: Jammers and Pirate Flagships |
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1. Jammers first:
I read the blurb in the manual ref these ships. The discussions goes on about how you can use lots of jammers in class 3 to make it seem like you have a load of cruisers etc.
BUT isn’t the job of the jammer to block ENEMY dsp scans. Since I can’t see if it’s working does anyone know:
If they only scramble dsp data of the fleet it is in.
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If they scramble all dsp readings in a certain scan radius
(I presume the first)
Has anyone seen this work i.e. a dsp report with one fleet scrambled?
2. Pirate Flagship
If the fleet with flagship hits a multi fleeted target coords is it supposed to get a battle-pause for all the fleets at that coord or just the one fleet it has attacked.
I noticed that my flagship fleet got battle paused for all the fleets (could be due to other reasons) preventing me from attacking again the other fleets at the cords (quite annoying! ). _________________ Darkfire
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Phoenix 1st Rear Admiral
Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 228
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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pirate flagship automatically cloaks your fleet when you had one battle so if there are 3 enemy fleets at some place you'll only fight one _________________
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Sparks Captain
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 135 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know that...BUT... does/should the battle pause effect also the other fleets.
Check out the following scenario:
1. Score planet has 3 enemy fleets. call them A B C
2. You send 1 fleet with flagship (fleet F)
3. Flag ship fleet arrives at score planet.
4. Battles fleet A ONLY
5. CLOAKS! automatically after battle.
6. You move Flagship fleet away from score planet.
7. Uncloak flagship fleet.
8. Re-attack score planet....
....THIS IS WHERE MY QUESTION COMES IN...
since u have only fought 1 fleet (fleet A) at the score planet can you attack the others on your re-attack. If not then the battle pause effects all enemy fleets. _________________ Darkfire
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Vrictus Admiral
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 662
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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no
there is a certain fleet setup that would suffer dreadfully if the flagship were to be changed
the flag ship is designed so that hit and runs can be possible...and most fleets wit ha flagship tend to be expensive and specialist fleets.
however, then tend to to be weak...only good for a single battle. |
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Sparks Captain
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 135 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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No?
No as in it does not cause a battle pause with the other fleets OR no as in it does?
I have found some useful plays with the battle pause effect (e.g. multiple incoming targets can be delt with one at a time and prevents battle on second fleet if ships are swaped)
Also any one know about the jammer? _________________ Darkfire
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Vrictus Admiral
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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from experiences with flagships...
i dont think it affects battle pause...
but a more experienced player will need to varify that |
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Senor Admiral
Joined: 12 Nov 2003 Posts: 1114 Location: estonia
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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jammer does not scramble enemy dsp readings. it's soul purpose is to make your enemy believe you have mass c3 ships, which is a rather cool thing.
you might have been confused by the description - this vessel can jam enemy scans.
all it really means is that the jammer "lies" to the enemy dsp about you having an extra c3. |
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Rubens Admiral
Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Posts: 1422
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Senor wrote: | jammer does not scramble enemy dsp readings. it's soul purpose is to make your enemy believe you have mass c3 ships, which is a rather cool thing.
you might have been confused by the description - this vessel can jam enemy scans.
all it really means is that the jammer "lies" to the enemy dsp about you having an extra c3. |
Indeed...
Also, yes, if you battle vs 3 fleets that are at the same sector with the flagship all of them get the battle pause even if you just battle 1 (remember you can put on "inactive" the cloak function of the FS)
As the fleets get the battle pause so the ship, so you cant put the FS in other fleet and fight. _________________ KoT Stop spamming...i dont care about Runescape or your opinions...limit your comments to something usefull.
*Founder of the last top alliance at rounds
*Founder of the alliance with the biggest score ever
*Adicted to ST and Hincha of Caracas F.C. |
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ilofuyci 2nd Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 195 Location: Seattle, WA, USA
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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With the jammers, try this:
1. Build 35 or so of them.
2. Build a mothership, and a Doomstar.
3. Send fleet someplace, and someone will see 0 0 35 2 on their DSP.
4. They'll think, "Ah, swank fleet inbound!"
5. They'll send loads of evaporators, and probably leave their c2 and c3 in the fleet, because they aren't very worried. They know the evaps will kill off your whole fleet.
6. Until the battle, at which point all the jammers disappear, and the Doomstar wipes out their whole fleet.
7. Laugh maniacally, and rub your hands together. Sneaky you! |
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Connor McCloud Admiral
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 916 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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ilofuyci wrote: | With the jammers, try this:
1. Build 35 or so of them.
2. Build a mothership, and a Doomstar.
3. Send fleet someplace, and someone will see 0 0 35 2 on their DSP.
4. They'll think, "Ah, swank fleet inbound!"
5. They'll send loads of evaporators, and probably leave their c2 and c3 in the fleet, because they aren't very worried. They know the evaps will kill off your whole fleet.
6. Until the battle, at which point all the jammers disappear, and the Doomstar wipes out their whole fleet.
7. Laugh maniacally, and rub your hands together. Sneaky you! |
PLZ send your set up to my base every day ilofuyci , you would lose every battle . you would lose your jammers and your doomstar , I don't need that much evaps to attack a swank fleet to carry more MP to lose points against yours _________________ Greetz Connor
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Sparks Captain
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 135 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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^ LMAO
Shame that the jammers dont actually jam. Should be called spammers. to whomever gave it that name!
As for Flagships. As I said; the battle pause used correctly against multiple enemies can frustrate gangbangers easy.
You can also use it in attacking too
Thanks all
_________________ Darkfire
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